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Officers ‘Don’t Trust’ Salt Lake County Attorney, Refuse to Cooperate in Shooting Investigations

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – A standoff of sorts is occurring in Salt Lake County, between District Attorney Sim Gill and the Utah State Fraternal Order of Police. In 18 officer-involved shooting cases this year, nine officers, the majority represented by the FOP, have chosen not to talk to the DA’s investigative team.

Officers have the constitutional right, like all citizens, to remain silent in a criminal investigation. But a KSL investigation has found the decisions to remain silent in these cases are motivated by distrust of the DA.

The FOP said Gill drags his feet on the cases, twists evidence, and paints officers as guilty in his public presentations of the cases. Gill said there is no proof of that. He said cops have a tough job to do but he does too.

Gill was just re-elected to a third term, and the disagreement shows no signs of ebbing.

“It’s no secret in any corner of the police world”

Investigative Reporter Debbie Dujanovic asked Gill, “Do you dislike police officers?”

“Absolutely not,” said Gill.

Gill spent the 45 minute interview denying he has it out for police officers.

“My function is to get to the truth,” said Gill, “I’ve been a public prosecutor for 23 years… and I love my job and I support law enforcement.”

Dujanovic asked Fraternal Order of Police attorney Brett Rawson, “Do you trust (Gill)?”

“I don’t trust Sim Gill,” replied Rawson.

He is the attorney for the 3,500 member police union.

“I believe (officers are) scared,” said Rawson.

He said the relationship between the FOP and the DA has disintegrated to the point that cops are going to die.

“I’ve had clients call concerned they’d have to take the first bullet, rather than subject their family to years of prosecution,” said Rawson.

“It’s no secret in any corner of the police world,” said Ian Adams, the executive director of the FOP.

Why have things gotten so bad? Adams points to his own experience.

Debbie Dujanovic interviews Ian Adams, Executive Director of Utah FOP.

As a police officer, he shot a man who’d threatened to kill cops in 2014. It took Gill almost two months to rule the shooting justified. Adams said Gill leaves other officers in limbo for far longer.

“To be subjected to a year, two years, three years, of being dragged through the criminal process, lose their marriages, their life, their house, their belongings, their job,” said Adams.

KSL findings: DA rulings range from 8 days to 332 days

Gill said an independent task force gathers evidence in these cases, then turns over their findings to him for a decision on whether to prosecute the officer.

The KSL Investigators analyzed the 60 officer-involved shootings during Gill’s five years in office. The quickest turnaround was eight days. On average, it takes him 88 days to rule a shooting justified or not.

“If it takes a little bit longer time, it’s because of the facts of that specific case,” said Gill.

The KSL analysis showed several rulings took much longer: six, nine, and even as long as 11 months for Gill to reach a decision.

“There’s no magic formula, there are no two similar shootings,” said Gill.

The FOP claims Gill prolonged these shooting investigations to generate more publicity.

“Officers believe Sim Gill sacrifices their well-being for his own political gain,” said Adams.

The union believes Gill uses news conferences announcing his decisions as a way to try cops in the press and win over voters in the court of public opinion.

Debbie Dujanovic interviews Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill.

“We’ve never ever made a decision because of any politics,” said Gill. “My goal is to be open and to be transparent to share that information.”

While the union accuses Gill of being unfair to cops, the KSL analysis showed Gill overwhelmingly rules in their favor, determining officers were justified in pulling the trigger 83 percent of the time. Gill ruled four cases not justified, and he has only charged three officers with a crime for their shootings.

But the union’s main arguments rests on these three cases. Two were dismissed in court for a lack of evidence. The third is pending in court.

When asked if he has any regrets for charging those two officers, Gill replied, “No. When we make our decisions to charge, we believe it’s the right thing to do based on the available evidence to us.”

The boiling point: Police officers remain silent

All of this boiled over this election year.

“Do you tell your clients (not to) talk to Sim Gill?” Dujanovic asked Rawson.

“It would be malpractice for me not to describe to a client the political environment we’re in,” said Rawson.

The KSL analysis showed of the 43 officer-involved shootings prior to 2018, nearly every officer either agreed to be interviewed or provided a written statement to Gill. This year, nearly all FOP represented clients have decided to remain silent.

KSL Investigators Debbie Dujanovic and Mark Stevens review evidence in 60 officer-involved shooting cases in Salt Lake County.

Of the 17 officer-involved shootings that happened in 2018 before the midterm election in November, nine officers exercised their constitutional right to remain silent and not talk to investigators, Gill’s office, or Gill about why they pulled the trigger.

The KSL investigation found no evidence officers aren’t participating in their agency’s internal investigations. Those are conducted to determine if an officer violated department policy when they pulled the trigger.

“Officers believe they’re more at risk of Sim Gill, being sacrificed on the altar of his politics so they’ve just declined to be interviewed,” said Adams.

In a twist, that very strategy could be tying up more investigative resources, leaving officers fates in limbo much longer. The KSL analysis found it took Gill an average of 73 days to issue a ruling when cops talked. When they did not, the average doubled, to 146 days.

When officers don’t talk, Gill relies on other evidence, including body camera video, to understand their actions and issue a ruling.

The conflict has changed policies in some police departments. Cops used to stay off the job until the DA ruled, but departments can’t afford to be down police officers for months. Some departments now let them return to the streets after they complete their own investigation and when the officer feels ready to return to work, without waiting for Gill’s ruling.

When it comes to overall public safety, both Gill and the FOP said the standoff isn’t affecting arrests and prosecutions, but that is difficult for KSL to independently confirm.

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